What is wrong with this statement "this One God is a pure Spirit?" - this is:
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"While Novus Ordo pundits immediately accused critics of “taking the Pope out of context”, affirming the existence of the Three Persons while denying the existence of God doesn’t do anything to save the baby. For one thing, it either denies that the Three Persons are divine, or that they are one. It does not suffice, you see, to merely affirm that there are Three Divine Persons — you must also affirm that they are one in substance, and that this One God is a pure Spirit."
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"a pure Spirit" concerning the nature and substance and existence of God is straight out of the Westminster confession of faith. (There are other subtle errors here but we are not dealing with them herein.)
It is supposedly based on John 4:24. But look carefully at what John 4:24 says in the original Greek.
John 4:24 "God (is) spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." Greek: "pneu'ma o' Theos, kai tous proskunou'ntas auton en pneumati kai aletheia dei' proskunei'n."
or literally "spirit the God, and ones worshipping Him in spirit and truth necessary worship"
The meaning and emphasis is that we worship the true God in spirit and truth. It is NOT that we limit God to be only spirit. That is among other apostate infidel religions totally, per se, Hinduism, wherein among other lies, the hindu god is a single monadic spirit without flesh who is trimuti, brahma-vishnu-shiva, wherein all three are just changing modalistic personages within a time framework of reoccurring ages or universal cycles - i.e. Modalistic Pantheistic worship of the creation and not of the true God. Modalism extends or subtends from monadism, wherein all about God is reduced to one ONLY - that is the same lie as Cabalistic Talmudic Judaism wherein Maimonides changed the shema of Moses to Yahweh Eloheinu Yahweh iahid instead of Yahweh Eloheinu Yahweh echad; in Hebrew echad is the unity of the three persons of the One Godhead within that Godhead whereas iahid is just "one" or "a" god. (See also: Parousia of Jesus Christ Our Lord: Jews called in Christ: The I AM in the Old and New Testaments and the seven names of God in the Old Testament) Worse yet the article for "a" is not in there at all in John 4:24. To include that changes the meaning to making God a god among gods, in other words "a spirit" among who knows how many others. Any number of ancient and modern heresies would also be inculcated therein. In John 4:24 in the original Greek, "o' Theos" is not "a spirit," it is "the God." "pneu'ma o' Theos," is not "a" or "the" "spirit God" but is: spirit - the God. The unity of the true God is not found in defining Him as spirit, it is found in the One Substance, Substantia or Homoousios equally possessed by all three persons, from which is known the truth of Homoousian - the consubstantiality of the Three Divine Persons of the adorable Godhead. It is true that in the relationship of the three persons to one another, the Father and the Son adore one another with a perfect love that is the bond of love of the Holy Spirit (see: Dom Grea), but that is not the same as the unity which is substance, which is a real living nature and entity the only true Trinitarian God: the true God Who alone has aseity - self existence from eternity before all of creation and to eternity unto the endless ages to come and is never apart from the three co-extant immortal Persons of His Godhead, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, and Who, the Holy Trinity Adorable Unity, is at the same time transcendantly present within all of His creation, never merely part of it, and above and infinitely beyond it always from the beginning of His creation (which is the only creation, and which He alone created) unto the endless ages to come.
See also:
Eternal faith and beliefs: Jesus Christ is the Truth
Eternal faith and beliefs: The Justice of God: The New Age is the same old lie of Satan and all of paganism
Parousia of Jesus Christ Our Lord: The Justice of God: The Catholic Creed: God, His Infinite Existence and Governing Presence in His creation and His forgiveness of sin. Resurrection
Saint Elijah when he returns with Saint Enoch at the end of this age, will witness to those Jews who have ears to hear, but the "nation" of Israel was visited as promised by God 2,000 years ago by the true Messiah who is Jesus Christ, there will not be another national appearing of the Messiah to Israel and fulfillment of the covenant of God with them - that was one time ONLY. The temple veil was ripped in two at the One Time Only Crucifixion of Christ, the final covenant is given then. There will not be another. The perfidious and Deicidal nation of the Jews rejected the Lord then and at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., they were forever cast off as a nation then and will never be covenanted with by God as a nation again. Individual Jews are another case, they have this life, as do all men, to come to Christ and confess Him from the heart and with the mouth and with their actions unto salvation. When Jesus Christ says in Matthew 23:39 For I say to you, you shall not see me henceforth till you say: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. He is referring to those Jews who confessed Him then (such as Ss. Peter, John and Paul and the rest of the Apostles, not including Judas) and Our Lord Jesus Christ is also referring to the forty years from His death and resurrection until the destruction of Jerusalem given as the last period for the national repentance of Israel - which except for the faithful church which included gentiles of course, the entire nation of Israel rejected. He is also referring to those individual Jews who will be converted in the future by Saint Elijah to Christ. Then the two witnesses of God, Saint Enoch and Saint Elijah are martyred.
The Apocalypse, the Book of the Revelation: 11.
Then will Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ return from heaven with all of His elect angels in flaming fire and raise and judge all men that ever lived.
Parousia of Jesus Christ Our Lord: Palestine Cry: The Justice of God: The Justice of God: Vatican II is damned by God. The nation of the Jews is Perfidious and damned and only brings forth the Antichrist.
The Justice of God: The lie attributed to Romans 11:18
Novus Ordo Wire | Blog, News Archive at NOVUS ORDO WATCH
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"While Novus Ordo pundits immediately accused critics of “taking the Pope out of context”, affirming the existence of the Three Persons while denying the existence of God doesn’t do anything to save the baby. For one thing, it either denies that the Three Persons are divine, or that they are one. It does not suffice, you see, to merely affirm that there are Three Divine Persons — you must also affirm that they are one in substance, and that this One God is a pure Spirit."
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"a pure Spirit" concerning the nature and substance and existence of God is straight out of the Westminster confession of faith. (There are other subtle errors here but we are not dealing with them herein.)
The Westminster Confession of Faith (A.D. 1646)
Chapter II Of God, and of the Holy Trinity
I. There is but one only living and true God, who is infinite in being and perfection, a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts, or passions, immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible, almighty, most wise, most holy, most free, most absolute, working all things according to the counsel of His own immutable and most righteous will, for His own glory; most loving, gracious, merciful, long-suffering, abundant in goodness and truth, forgiving iniquity, transgression, and sin; the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him; and withal most just and terrible in His judgments, hating all sin, and who will by no means clear the guilty.
II. God hath all live, glory, goodness, blessedness, in and of Himself; and is alone in and unto Himself all-sufficient, not standing in need of any creatures which He hath made, nor deriving any glory from them, but only manifesting His own glory in, by, unto, and upon them: He is the alone fountain of all being, of whom, through whom, and to whom, are all things; and hath most sovereign dominion over them, to do by them, for them, and upon them, whatsoever Himself pleaseth. In His sight all things are open and manifest; His knowledge is infinite, infallible, and independent upon the creature, so as nothing is to Him contingent or uncertain. He is most holy in all His counsels, in all His works, and in all His commands. To Him is due from angels and men, and every other creature, whatsoever worship, service, or obedience He is pleased to require of them.III. In the unity of the Godhead there be three Persons of one substance, power, and eternity; God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. The Father is of none, neither begotten nor proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; the Holy Ghost eternally proceeding from the Father and the Son.
It is supposedly based on John 4:24. But look carefully at what John 4:24 says in the original Greek.
John 4:24 "God (is) spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." Greek: "pneu'ma o' Theos, kai tous proskunou'ntas auton en pneumati kai aletheia dei' proskunei'n."
or literally "spirit the God, and ones worshipping Him in spirit and truth necessary worship"
The meaning and emphasis is that we worship the true God in spirit and truth. It is NOT that we limit God to be only spirit. That is among other apostate infidel religions totally, per se, Hinduism, wherein among other lies, the hindu god is a single monadic spirit without flesh who is trimuti, brahma-vishnu-shiva, wherein all three are just changing modalistic personages within a time framework of reoccurring ages or universal cycles - i.e. Modalistic Pantheistic worship of the creation and not of the true God. Modalism extends or subtends from monadism, wherein all about God is reduced to one ONLY - that is the same lie as Cabalistic Talmudic Judaism wherein Maimonides changed the shema of Moses to Yahweh Eloheinu Yahweh iahid instead of Yahweh Eloheinu Yahweh echad; in Hebrew echad is the unity of the three persons of the One Godhead within that Godhead whereas iahid is just "one" or "a" god. (See also: Parousia of Jesus Christ Our Lord: Jews called in Christ: The I AM in the Old and New Testaments and the seven names of God in the Old Testament) Worse yet the article for "a" is not in there at all in John 4:24. To include that changes the meaning to making God a god among gods, in other words "a spirit" among who knows how many others. Any number of ancient and modern heresies would also be inculcated therein. In John 4:24 in the original Greek, "o' Theos" is not "a spirit," it is "the God." "pneu'ma o' Theos," is not "a" or "the" "spirit God" but is: spirit - the God. The unity of the true God is not found in defining Him as spirit, it is found in the One Substance, Substantia or Homoousios equally possessed by all three persons, from which is known the truth of Homoousian - the consubstantiality of the Three Divine Persons of the adorable Godhead. It is true that in the relationship of the three persons to one another, the Father and the Son adore one another with a perfect love that is the bond of love of the Holy Spirit (see: Dom Grea), but that is not the same as the unity which is substance, which is a real living nature and entity the only true Trinitarian God: the true God Who alone has aseity - self existence from eternity before all of creation and to eternity unto the endless ages to come and is never apart from the three co-extant immortal Persons of His Godhead, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, and Who, the Holy Trinity Adorable Unity, is at the same time transcendantly present within all of His creation, never merely part of it, and above and infinitely beyond it always from the beginning of His creation (which is the only creation, and which He alone created) unto the endless ages to come.
See also:
Eternal faith and beliefs: Jesus Christ is the Truth
JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUTH
GOD is the Truth. The Most Holy Trinity is God and none other is God. The Most Holy Trinity is Three Persons Who are One God. These Three Persons are The Father and the Son, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. The Father is the fountainhead of the Trinity, the Son proceeds from His engendering in the Father’s bosom, the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father in the unity of the engendering of the Son from the Father. This procession of the Son and the Holy Spirit from the Father is immortal from before all time and creation and unto eternity never-ending. This Triune God alone has Aseity, that He is immortal without beginning and without end, self sustained in His existence which preceded all time and creation and, His existence, continues forever; God’s existence is infinite. This God is above all that He has created and transcendent in all that He has created. There is nothing apart from nor outside of God that He has not created. He created all that has been created ex nihilo, that is from nothing by His infinite power. Nothing that is created has aseity. Time is only an aspect of that which has been created by God. Time is therefore part of God’s creation. God is not limited by His creation, this includes that God is not limited by time. God is Omnipotent and Omniscient and Ubiquitos and with eternal complete foresight: Almighty and All seeing and knowing and equally present everywhere and knowing all things before their creation and all events before they come to pass unto eternity. There is no way to God but through the Second Person of the Most Holy Trinity Who is the Lord Jesus Christ, in Whom alone there is salvation by His Most Holy Cross and Resurrection. Creation had a beginning but will continue unto the eternal ages to come. At the return of Jesus Christ from God the Father’s right hand in the third heaven and the just judgement of Christ of His creatures, creation will be cleansed by fire (the damned, both angels and men consigned to hell forever) and renewed with paradise restored, with the presence around God of all His elect angels and saints, and continue in this way forever.
"Ahiyah Asher Ahiyah I Am Who I Am Yahweh El Olam eth Abba Our Father and Son Jesus Christ our Only Lord and Saviour and Ruach Yahweh Holy Spirit our Paraclete, Pantocrator Omniscient Ubiquituos, Yahweh Elohim eth Creator and ruler of all the Lord thy God Incarnate, subsuming flesh of all men, Jesus Christ our Only Lord and Saviour, 70 generations from Adam and the beginning of all creation through Whom, the Word of God, all that has been created was created and without Whom was nothing that has been created, "
Jesus Christ in subsuming flesh of all men, at His resurrection guaranteed the resurrection of all men and His judging them for eternity, to either the heavenly kingdom in this His then recreated universe unto the endless ages to come, or the the lake of fire which is hell, forever.
It is the true living God who has been offended and He alone wills to be appeased only by the perfect sacrifice of His Son and by our profession of Him, Christ Jesus, from the heart with the mouth and by our actions. The time for this is only now and NOT latter.
Eternal faith and beliefs: The Justice of God: The New Age is the same old lie of Satan and all of paganism
Parousia of Jesus Christ Our Lord: The Justice of God: The Catholic Creed: God, His Infinite Existence and Governing Presence in His creation and His forgiveness of sin. Resurrection
Saint Elijah when he returns with Saint Enoch at the end of this age, will witness to those Jews who have ears to hear, but the "nation" of Israel was visited as promised by God 2,000 years ago by the true Messiah who is Jesus Christ, there will not be another national appearing of the Messiah to Israel and fulfillment of the covenant of God with them - that was one time ONLY. The temple veil was ripped in two at the One Time Only Crucifixion of Christ, the final covenant is given then. There will not be another. The perfidious and Deicidal nation of the Jews rejected the Lord then and at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., they were forever cast off as a nation then and will never be covenanted with by God as a nation again. Individual Jews are another case, they have this life, as do all men, to come to Christ and confess Him from the heart and with the mouth and with their actions unto salvation. When Jesus Christ says in Matthew 23:39 For I say to you, you shall not see me henceforth till you say: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. He is referring to those Jews who confessed Him then (such as Ss. Peter, John and Paul and the rest of the Apostles, not including Judas) and Our Lord Jesus Christ is also referring to the forty years from His death and resurrection until the destruction of Jerusalem given as the last period for the national repentance of Israel - which except for the faithful church which included gentiles of course, the entire nation of Israel rejected. He is also referring to those individual Jews who will be converted in the future by Saint Elijah to Christ. Then the two witnesses of God, Saint Enoch and Saint Elijah are martyred.
The Apocalypse, the Book of the Revelation: 11.
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The Two Witnesses
4 These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks that stand before the Lord of the earth. … Scripture reference – Zach.: 4:14
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire shall come out of their mouths and shall devour their enemies. And if any man will hurt them, in this manner must he be slain.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: And they have power over waters, to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. … Scripture reference – 3 Rg. (1 Kings): 17:1; Exod. 7:20!
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast [3] that ascendeth out of the abyss shall make war against them and shall overcome them and kill them. 7 … Scripture reference – Rev.: 12:17; 13:1!, 7; 17:8; 19:19; Dan.: 7:21
8 And their bodies shall lie in the streets of the great city which is called spiritually, Sodom and Egypt: where their Lord also was crucified.
9 And they of the tribes and peoples and tongues and nations shall see their bodies for three days and a half: and they shall not suffer their bodies to be laid in sepulchres.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them and make merry: and shall send gifts one to another, because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt upon the earth. … Scripture reference – Jn.: 16:20
11 And after three days and a half, [4] the spirit of life from God entered into them. And they stood upon their feet: and great fear fell upon them that saw them. … Scripture reference – Ezek.: 37:10!; Acts:5:5!
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven, saying to them: Come up hither. And they went up to heaven in a cloud: and their enemies saw them. … Scripture reference –
13 And at that hour there was made a great earthquake: and the tenth part of the city fell. And there were slain in the earthquake, names of men, seven thousand: and the rest were cast into a fear and gave glory to the God of heaven. … Scripture reference – Rev.:16:18!;
Acts: 16: 26!
14 ¶ The second woe is past: and behold the third woe will come quickly. … Scripture reference – Rev.: 9:12
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Then will Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ return from heaven with all of His elect angels in flaming fire and raise and judge all men that ever lived.
Parousia of Jesus Christ Our Lord: Palestine Cry: The Justice of God: The Justice of God: Vatican II is damned by God. The nation of the Jews is Perfidious and damned and only brings forth the Antichrist.
The Justice of God: The lie attributed to Romans 11:18
See this for the definition of the "pure spirits" who are the fallen angels and totally evil. The good angels are "pure spirits" also. Neither of them is God. see - Devil
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